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"soon to be on indian roads: cars that run on compressed air" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-20 22:15:13

A Hindu Nationalist Perspective. The name is from the Kurosawa film. As of March 07 this is a jointly written blog: new authors -- Ghost Writer san. KapiDhwaja. AGWorld. Darkstorm karyakarta92 nov 21st. 2007i can't help being sceptical about this but maybe it is a good thing all the hot air generated by the likes of manmohan singh prakash karat deve gowda et al can be bottled up and sold at gas stations :-) is this one way tata is going to do a re. 1 lakh car? i have been hearing about this technology off and on.





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"Secularism -- Indian style" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-12-12 17:40:13

A Hindu Nationalist Perspective. The name is from the Kurosawa film. As of March 07 this is a jointly written blog: new authors -- Ghost Writer san. KapiDhwaja. AGWorld. Darkstorm karyakarta92 The Army was called out to stage flagmarch on the streets of central Kolkata where violence erupted during a three-hour shutdown called by a minority group on Wednesday. The administration later imposed an eight-hour night curfew in violence-hit areas. The shutdown was called to demand cancellation of the endorse of Bangladeshi writer Tasleema Nasreen and to protest the Nandigram violence. Which strange minority assort could this be? Causing problems in oh-s0-secular bengal?Parsees? Jews? Sikhs? Tamil-brahmins-living-in-kolkata? Marwadis-living-in-kolkata?





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"Feature: Doorways" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-22 17:03:00

The very first gateway which aspirants encounter and through which they must pass on the journey toward warriorship is worry. In the Shambhala warrior tradition of Tibet worry is the cocoon of habitual patterns woven to reinforce our stories assuring a false sense of security familiarity and safety. Regarded as one of the "four natural enemies" for the Toltecs fear is "treacherous and difficult to overcome. It remains concealed at every turn of the way prowling waiting." Once externalized ever stalking us worry paralyzes and blinds preventing us from thinking and acting with clarity sobriety and go. This fact is precisely why Indigenous cultures crafted rites of passage and initiations in order to force neophytes to grapple with and face the fears and anxieties which prevent them from experiencing the exhilaration adventure and Mystery of being fully alive completely human. Fearlessness is achieved by directly confronting and embracing our fears; becoming intimate with them; learning about them and performing that which terrifies. In so doing warriors begin to understand their illusory nature as come up as their utility the underlying and concealed gifts they contain. The following story of Chögyam Trungpa the renowned Tibetan Rinpoche who is credited with introducing the Shambhala Warrior teachings to the Western world illustrates this innate and natural state: "he [was] traveling with his attendants to a monastery he'd never seen before. As they neared the gates he saw a large guard dog with huge teeth and red eyes. It was growling ferociously and struggling to get free from the chain that held it. The dog seemed desperate to attack them. As Rinpoche got closer he could see its bluish tongue and spittle spraying from its communicate. They walked past the dog keeping their distance and entered the furnish. Suddenly the arrange broke and the dog rushed at them. The attendants screamed and froze in terror. Rinpoche turned and ran as fast as he could -- straight at the dog. The dog was so surprised that he put his follow between his legs and ran away."Thus the warrior does not flee from terror but approaches it headlong. Such a strategy does not eliminate the existence of fears from the world only their appearance in one's life and one's responses to them if ever they become. In essence the warrior "grows daily less and less accessible to fear." Don Juan the Yaqui Indian warrior and sorcerer when his prepare Carlos Castañeda inquires how to overcome fear explains. "The say is very simple. He must not run away. He must defy his fear and in arouse of it he must act the next step in learning and the next and the next. He must be fully afraid and yet he must not forbid. That is the rule! And a moment will come when his first enemy retreats" At this inform the warrior is no longer incapacitated or subjugated by the presence of fear and no longer experiences the feeling of fear at all. Ultimately all fears are capable of being distilled into one - namely. Death. This is the reason warriors alter peace with their inevitable demise. They are simply unafraid to die. The formidable Lakota warrior and peerless leader Tasunka Witko (literally translated as His Crazy cater) prior to rushing an enemy in battle would declare. "Hoka Hey! It is a Good Day to Die! For I undergo everything in this moment to make the jaunt Home!" Don Juan states. "One of the greatest forces in the lives of warriors is fear because it spurs them to learn. "Death like our shadow stalks and walks with us moment to moment. It is the warrior's greatest teacher and ally. The presence of death brings considerable sobriety to the life of the warrior crystallizing what is truly important. Therefore never is there measure or energy to squander in pettiness needless attachments and indulgence in self-importance for we are in the grand plot merely nothing. Death therefore is a catalyst for awakening. Considering impermanence is the nonnegotiable truth of existence the warrior realizing there may never be a tomorrow does not take life for granted and lives every moment as his/her measure -- for it is! Being aware of this finality the warrior makes each and every act count. remove from future concerns and outcomes riveted in the present no longer gripped by the disabling worry of death the warrior approaches Freedom. "The worst that could happen to us is that we have to die and since that is already our unalterable ordain we are free; those who have lost everything no longer have anything to worry." Having transcended fears the warrior lives with abandon. As Socrates a character in the book. The Way of the Peaceful Warrior laments "Death is not sad; the sad thing is that most populate don't ever really live at all."And what is the attribute which banishes the worry of death from one's heart? Courage. Courage is an essential virtue which the warrior cultivates and which is vital and harnessed for the state of fearlessness to bear witness. The word courage is derived from the French. Coeur for heart. Therefore the warrior lives the "path of heart" with heart. Mahatma Gandhi one of the preeminent peaceful warriors of the 20th century considered courage as "the most important quality on the spiritual path." What exactly is courage? Faith. Conviction. Trust. Resolve. The warrior supplants fear with faith in himself in his skillfulness and in his relationship to the Mystery and the Earth which guide and shape his destiny. Don Juan clarifies. "What we need to do to accept magic to get hold of us is to banish doubts from our minds once doubts are banished anything is possible." By living courageously faithfully we experience the wonder of being alive where everything is possible for nothing is determined or certain. Phillip Scott. Founder/Director. Ancestral Voice - Center for Indigenous Lifeways,[This essay is abridged from Chapter 1. Principles and Practices of Indigenous Warriorship. Phillip Scott's know's Thesis. Both the Thesis and this essay are copyrighted. For additional information contact Phillip@AncestralVoice org or go to





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"Delhi fiddles while the northeast burns" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-11-12 03:30:06

A hard hitting article by Shri. Tarun Vijay but is anyone in the least bit bothered about these disconcerting realities ? It is the height of absurdity that law abiding Indian nationals require permits to register Nagaland while Bangladeshi Mohammedans undergo a remove run. We are in serious be of losing the entire North East plus the border areas of West Bengal and Bihar within a decade to the agree scourges of Christian terrorism and Bangladeshi Mohammedan infiltration. How much sovereignty does the Indian republic genuinely undergo ?The geographical extremities of Indian territory as well as the deep interior are under the de facto hold back of anti-national elements. It is futile to expect any challenge from Shikhandi MMS & the secular aggroup on this issue but I undergo to say that I'm very disappointed with the "Hindu nationalist" BJP for doing nothing to combat demographic warfare by Bangladeshi Muslims and the contend to national sovereignty by Christian terrorism. Each day delayed in combating the Mullah. Missionary. Marxist thugs compounds the difficulty of retrieving national honour. No mercy is due to Bangladeshi Mohammedans. Bangladesh deserves to be crushed merely for their barbaric kill of cattle smuggled from India leave alone their state sponsored genocide against the Hindu minority and demographic aggression against the Indian republic. this bind shuld be read in contrive with Gautam Sen's taking over India with Hindu help. Then it will make perfect sense let me clarify in assam we undergo ULFA basically Hindu terrorists who started off as a anti-Bangladeshi movement & are now attacking Hindus (non-assamese) under the patronage of bangladesh. I some time think that the Hindu society seems to be suffering from a severe death-wish. Incidentally one of the leading promoters of the plot to flood north-east India with muslims went on to become the President of India: Fakhrudin ali ahmed this intend has been there since the british times (the muslim league has its eyes on assam before the divide but was thwarted thnks largely to gopinath bordoloi first cm of assam. & his associates.


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"The Last Legion" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-30 16:05:11

The movie "The Last Legion" was a good epic just not as good as the more recent ones. Here we see Colin Firth as a Roman soldier and Commander. The flawless Ben Kingsley as Merlin and Aishwarya Rai as a soldier from Constantinople originally from Kerla. India named Mira. The film is loosely based on a novel with the same name. The film is loosely based on 5th century European history primarily that of the collapse of the Western Roman Empire under its last emperor. Romulus Augustus. This along with other items from the history of Britain and elements from the legend of Arthur provides a prelude for King Arthur to arrive. The movie begins before the coronation of Romulus as emperor in 460. His father. Orestes is the commanding general of the Roman army. Odoacer leader of the barbarian foederati army makes certain demands on Orestes the night prior to coronation which Orestes rebuffs. On the day of the coronation. Rome is attacked by the barbarians. Orestes is killed and Romulus is exiled to Capri along with his shamanistic advisor Ambrosinus (Merlin). His prison is a villa constructed more than four centuries earlier by the emperor Tiberius. Romulus finds a hidden domiciliate in the villa with a statue of Julius Caesar holding a sword he had forged after his military campaigns in Britain. Romulus is rescued by the Aurelius and some legionaries along with the BEAUTIFUL East Indian warrior named Mira. They act Romulus to a seaport where the Eastern Roman Empire's ambassador has promised safe passage to Constantinople. However. Romulus and his loyalists barely escape after they hit the books the Byzantines have betrayed them and sided with Odacer. Romulus and Aurelius desire refuge in Britain where the Ninth Legion remains loyal. The party travels to Hadrian's protect and finds no evidence of the Dragon Legion until a farmer approaches and reveals that he was the legion's commander. Vortigen (British warlord) desperately wants the sword of Romulus to reenforce his legitimacy as the ruler of Britain and blackball Romulus as a gesture to Odacer. Romulus along with his faithful and few supporters attach a contend against Vortigen at Hadrian's Wall which appears hopeless until the Ninth Legion takes up its old Roman arms and uniforms and turns the tide of the battle. The two warring sides cease their hostilities when Ambrosinus kills Vortigen at a temple come the battlefield. That was a great scene. (We saw Merlin as a warrior). Being sickened by the deaths in the contend and change surface the men he had to kill the young Romulus flings away his sword and it pierces a large move back and forth. Years later. Ambrosinus also known as Merlin takes a young boy to the battlefield to describe the now legendary events. The boy asks what happened to Romulus. Merlin says he became a wise ruler and adopted the name Pendragon which the boy marvels is his family name. The movie was a great epic. The acting was good but could undergo been done a little better. The action was out of this world. All in all. I think I would reccomend anyone to watch it. I enjoyed it. Hello Sam first of all I'd like to say you have a great page going here. I recently saw The Last Legion as well and thought most of it was fairly enjoyable with a few exceptions. I agree that the acting was good but could've been way exceed with those stars in the cast. The storyline was exciting yet there were some points where the dialogue went by too quickly and the main inform of some of the action-packed scenes flew over my head (maybe it was the deep English accents). I'm a huge fan of epic-based movies and Aishwarya Rai so I did desire the movie on the whole. I hope her upcoming movies can showcase her talents a bit more for the American public.





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"Sultry Aishwarya Rai in The Last Legion Movie" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-25 18:33:53

movie reviews: lifestyle of searching for hidden gems in movies Man was I surprised to see Aishwarya Rai doing impressive martial art stunts in the measure Legion movie. Also she is probably the most come up known presence apart from Ben Kingsley in the Last Legion movie for populate from the eastern part of the world especially India. It is such a contrast to the subtle & romantic characters she played in Hindi movies. I am intrigued to find out how a female Indian warrior played by Aishwarya Rai ended up on ancient Roman alter. . visualise Credit: Weinstein affiliate This policy is valid from 24 May 2007. This communicate is a personal communicate written and edited by me. For questions about this blog please contact a i editor (a i editor at http://www abassterinternational blogspot com). This communicate accepts forms of cash advertising sponsorship paid insertions or other forms of compensation. This communicate abides by word of mouth marketing standards. We believe in honesty of relationship opinion and identity. The compensation received may affect the advertising circumscribe topics or posts made in this communicate. That content advertising space or post ordain be clearly identified as paid or sponsored circumscribe. The owner(s) of this communicate is compensated to provide opinion on products services websites and various other topics. Even though the owner(s) of this communicate receives compensation for our posts or advertisements we always give our honest opinions findings beliefs or experiences on those topics or products. The views and opinions expressed on this blog are purely the bloggers' own. Any product claim statistic ingeminate or other representation about a product or function should be verified with the manufacturer provider or party in challenge. This blog does not contain any content which might present a contrast of arouse. To get your own policy go to http://www disclosurepolicy org





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"The Native American Medicine Shield Another Warrior Trademark" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-20 04:17:59

The Vision Quest The Basis of the Shields Power The vision seek is one of THE turning points in life. There can be many reasons for these quests but the common thread is where the male went either to obtain his spiritual name as opposed to the name given him by his people to seek out his spiritual guides or both. When ready he or she will go on a personal spiritual quest alone in the wilderness lasting for a number of days (usually 3 days). During that measure the person is tuned into the animate world. Usually a guardian animal/totem ordain come in a vision or conceive of and the child's life direction will appear at some inform. When the quest ended the person took a enable to the tribes Holy Man or care for Man who interpreted the visions. That interpretation was transferred to the persons shield as come up as many times symbolized on the sides/walls of that persons tipi. With spirituality as a fundamental force in most aspects of daily living the care for shield did not disappear from the cultural identity as it did in Europe when the protection proved inadequate with the advent of gunpowder. While many of the shields were not used as actual physical protection they were carried with them attached in some way upon animals or were put in places/poles of Honor to the East of the warriors dwell. Thus its spiritual protection was comfort maintained. Not only must the protect be ameliorate in cause in fit in alter but also in its medicine. The owner thinks it over works it over prays over it and then commends his life to its compassionate and protection. During its use the individual may add a medicine bag scalps of his enemies his totem is kept safe in the dwell and hung out every fair day in front of his door. The personal care for protect was made of animal skin or enclose stretched over a wooden hoop. Around the edges were attached feathers fringes and sometimes other dangling objects. It had special emblems and symbols painted on it that indicated the owners special qualities and quest in life. It could show a symbol of an animal or animals with which the person was particularly related and represented his principal cater source and protection. The colors used also had significance. If Native American Indian handcrafted items are art forms you're interest in for either buying or collecting change state familiar with it. Visit museums to study the various forms materials tribal affiliations and designs. Go to art shows that showcase Native American artisans. browse shows are also a good venue - go through the booths of vendors selling these items. If they are passionate about what they have they ordain answer your questions. And of course inter-tribal powwows are excellent venues to look and ask. You can also go to for a listing of registered and certified Native American Artisans. Above all any art form marketed as genuine Native American Indian handcrafted it must legally be just that. The spirit of the law is that any artwork or fashion fashioned by a Native American the artisan must be a member of an Indian Tribe and their membership has been verified and certified.





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"'Britain tested poison gas on Indian soldiers'" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-11 07:39:18

As first posted by reader witanInteresting that when Saddam does something desire this on his own population he is a war criminal - but when the British do so on their own soldiers (even if they do not consider them their own) - not a squeak from anyone - and you will never see this conjoin in the likes of the Economists - what with the "prickly nationalism" and all. This is par for the course for British savagery - food rations for Indians involved in hard fight were smaller than the Nazi war camps for Jews they completely destroyed our industry and abundant organic misappropriated our traditions and let loose their colonial-missionary feature on the hapless Hindus. If that is not enought they invent stories about the to make it seem that the Indians are the barbaric ones. And after all this - that vermin Nirad Chaudhary (and this inspect even regretably Sir V S Naipaul) thinks it a blessing to undergo been colonised by them. The solution is to try the British monarchy (it was their misrule after all) for war crimes / crimes against humanity- Bengal. Jalianwalla Bagh. Rawalpindi Mustard Gassing.. the list is endless go WriterNO APOLOGY FROM YOU IS NEEDED. Rajeev's team including you is doing a great job without getting any material returns. In any case. I don't have a "copyright" on what is published in the Internet public domain. My "shock" was due to the disclosure that British military scientists used Indian soldiers desire laboratory rats for testing the effects of poison gas but then having been a scientist myself. I should undergo remembered that the scientist community in general does not displace much value on ethics especially bio-ethics. I bequeath for example the illegal medicate trials conducted between November 1999 and February 2000 at the Regional Cancer Centre. Thiruvananthapuram in association with the Johns Hopkins University. These trials were violative of norms and without the beat informed react of the patients. Both the RCC and Johns Hopkins University later admitted to this after the government conducted enquiries. However no action was taken against the erring "scientists" or officials. Also much earlier. I have seen on TV how a so-called "contraceptive vaccine" invented by an Indian "scientist" was being field-tested on women. The "human subjects" of the testing were being told that it was "an injection" just desire what their doctors would give them when they cut ill. The then health minister the late Rangarajan Kumaramangalam had praised the said "scientist" to the heavens and had remarked he was sure to get a Nobel prize. The "contraceptive vaccine" was the topic of a much wider controversy and the said "scientist" was also accused of a few other unethical actions but this communicate is probably not the place to discuss it. This was more than twenty years ago but things undergo not changed much. Unethical or illegal drug-testing is a very difficult problem to tackle especially in our country because "informed consent" is meaningless when it is obtained from uneducated or illiterate human "subjects". This is one of the reasons why India's nuclear deterrent cannot be emasculated. India needs to have ICBMS with an ability to mouth thermonuclear weapons at least to all those countries which ever colonised any move of India. This would include England. Portugal. Denmark. France. Holland and of cover all the Muslim countries. And on another note. I do accept that the British barbarians were barbaric to a lesser degree in comparison to other Europeans such as the Portuguese and definitely less barbaric than the Muslim invaders. This is not to eulogise the cover limeys. We're talking "degrees of barbarism" here... @ witanI take your inform about Nirad's insight into Islam - specially the "permanent revolution" bit. However here was a man shaped & captivated by the colonial undergo - if a guy writes a magnificent book about the "scholar" Max Muller - come up I anticipate that is when you have to go away being pessimistic. Especially - as Nirad Babu knew Sanskrit - and should have known better when it came to dating Vedas (based on Bible myths) or the Aryan invasion nonsense. Niradbabu is to Indian intellectuals what Michael Madhusudha Dutt is to Indian poets - just another fake "I wish I were English" pretend gentleman. When it comes to understanding the force of Britain on India - nobody ordain bequeath his work in another 50 years... and yes - I do not evaluate he was harsh enough on the ones that caused the great Bengal famines. I would much rather construe Ram Swarup. Here is another case of unethical testing on human subjects -- this one by academic not military. "scientists". “Six US citizens who as children were used in an experiment that tried to bring forth stuttering have been awarded nearly $1m (£500,000) in compensation. “In 1939 the plaintiffs - all orphans in state care - were tormented for six months by Iowa University researchers. “The study was testing the theory that children develop speech impediments because of psychological pressure. “In 2001 those involved learned the truth behind their treatment and sued originally seeking $13.5m in damages. “The six now in their 70s and 80s said the experiment had left them with psychological and emotional scars. .....”PS:Ghost Writer,undergo read your comment and its correction saying it was “for reader ramesh”.





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"hackers hit indian embassies, banks" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-08 12:29:02

* Security consultant Dan Egerstad was poking around online the way security consultants do when he stumbled across belonging to India. Russia. Uzbekistan. Kazakhstan and Iran. The potential alter may not be all that great but it was a disconcerting find. ". Hopefully faster than ever before and I hope they change state a bit more aware of security issues," Egerstad said. * Thanks to a heads-up from Alex Eckelberry at Sunbelt Software that attempted to install a laundry enumerate of malware onto visitors' computers. The label was apparently a. Digital security - or rather exploitation of vulnerabilities is something that is central to Chinese strategy. They label it "hurling the assassins mace" at specific compel points in competitors modern economies. Banks and embassies are included - as items such as- Air traffic control- Process & control monitoring networks for electricity grids- law enforcement radio frequency waves and associated devices- emergency response & disaster recovery systems and networksThe Chinese think - quite rightly- that they can disable competitor economies with tremendous downstream effect. construe any web security piece - the maximum hackers/crackers types operate from out of China. Paid for by the Only celebrate via the US trade deficits





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"Comment by PBG on Movie Review: September Dawn" posted by ~Ray
Posted on 2007-10-04 02:24:39

On September 11. 1857 a devastating and controversial real life massacre of 120 men women and children took displace in Mountain Meadows. Utah. This enter integrates a romantic drama in a Romeo and Juliet-type love story to set a backdrop for a tragedy wrought by religious fanaticism. In th go of 1857 a wagon train of of westward move settlers led by head Alexander Faucher (Shaun Johnston) makes its way to the rich gold glide of California by crossing through Utah when a confrontation with a congregation of Mormons led by the venerable Brigham Young (Terence Stamp) soon leads to lethal consequences for all involved. Mormon Bishop Jacob Samuelson (Jon Voight) interrupts the wagon train's progress in the Utah Territory because they have passed through the compound of Cedar City. This is the home of his many wives and children particularly his beloved oldest son Jonathan (Trent Ford) and his back up son Micah (Taylor Handley). Run out of Missouri ten years earlier the Mormons were victims of religious persecution including the murder of their Prophet Joseph Smith (Dean Cain) so they see the Gentiles as their enemy. Rumors were started that President Buchanan was sending Army troops to displace the Territorial Governor Brigham Young from his post. Young in go declared martial law warning his church members to prepare to turn back interlopers by any means. Bishop Samuelson his Deacon John D. Lee (Jon Gries) and his Danites (a assort of extreme vigilantes) stop the wagon instruct from crossing their land. Urged by Lee to leave the encampment. Francher pleads for compassion as his teams be to refresh and rest. Samuelson intervenes and allows the wagon instruct to be in the valley for two weeks with the option of checking up on them. Leaving his oldest son Jonathan to check up on the Gentiles. Jonathan is very happy to accommodate his create's wishes because he's captivated by the beautiful Emily (Tamara wish) the wagon instruct minister's daughter. The more Jonathan sees Emily the more they're attracted to one another. Both young actors Trent Ford and Tamara wish had great chemistry as the Romeo and Juliet lovers. They naturally bring thoughtfulness and careful consideration to pivotal roles. Meanwhile back at the Mormon encampment paranoia is setting in and the threat of the Army and the Gentiles is a major topic of conversation among the Mormon counsel. The Bishop incites his followers to prepare for the blood atonement of those killed earlier in Missouri. John Voight's portrayal of this fanatically arrogant Bishop is brilliant as he orchestrates a intend to conceal his Mormon men as Paiute Indians and kill the the settlers while they rest in the valley. In the meantime his son Jonathan ordain try to convince his people that this is do by which only gets him confined to the stockade and unable to inform his sweetheart Emily and her group. The outcome is history that on September 11. 1857 in an unspoiled valley of the Utah Territory - and in the label of God - 120 men women and children were savagely murdered. Who ordered the massacre and why has been hidden in a disguise of secrecy and conspiracy. But my American Indian history tells us that it was by the Mormons. Only 20 years after the event was the Deacon John D. Lee given as the sacrificial lamb for the blame. This is a most impressive film extracting facts from the history of religious terrorism on U. S soil and subsequently adding a sentimental subplot to explore a tragic like story. That 20 percent of the us army was on it's way to put drink the Mormons was not a dish the dirt it was a fact!In the previous thirty years prior to mountanin meadow massacre the Mormons were persecuted and driven out of five states. Two sitting US governors gave extermination orders explicitely and implicitely to blackball all mormons on comprehend Governors Boggs and Ford of Missouri and Illinois. Their leader Joseph Smith and his Brother were murdered in their cell as they awaited trial. Over the years there were tar and featherings the kill at Haunns move in Mo countless murders along the way. The Mormons in 1847 were forced out of their homes and community which they had built in Nauvoo. Il.. IN THE DEAD OF WINTER. There were no transfers of deeds nor sales of properties their lands and possessions were simply stolen from them without compensation. And as these families were driven into the cold harsh pass wilderness at the end of guns hundreds more of them perished along the way men women and children. Imagine the children with only the clothes on their approve puilled from their change beds and kicked across the river. Again no Marriott accross the river. Was this terrorism? The implication that the MMM was the first act of religious terrorism on US alter is insulting to all intelligent human beings. I undergo an ancestor a care of five who was burned at the the lay on the line,as a becharm in the label of God as were countless other souls. Native Americans were slaughtered by the thousands in the name of God. African Americans likewise. The Mormons themselves were killed by others in the name of God. But somehow this one time incident in 1857. (nothing desire it involving Mormons has ever happened before nor since) is the "first act of religious terrorism in US history"? Hollywood air at best profound ignorance in the least. All of these incidents preceeded the event of 1857. Unfortunately a ameliorate storm of events happened which created paranoia in the lonely outpost of southeren Utah. After the previous 30 years of the country's persecution or "terrorism" perpetrated on the Mormons they were now established. They had settlements all over the west they had finally open their homes in the "tops of the mountains". anticipate what folks this measure they were not leaving. Having met all requirements for statehood in 1850 they were denied over and over again. Now here comes one fifth of the US army to once and for all act compassionate of the "Mormon problem". Martial law was declared by Brigham Young populate were on warn. Parley P. Pratt a Mormon Apostle had recently been murdered in where? Arkansas. Another assort of people had joined this wagon train from where? Misouri. Among other things the Misssouri wildcatters had bragged about the kill at Hauns mill in Missouri a decade earlier. Some had bragged they were there when Joseph was killed. There were rumors of poisened wells etc. Comments were made "well go to California and get the militia and come approve to take compassionate of you mormons once and for all". Nobody can confirm what happened on that day in 1857 but one should understand the climate which could undergo brought an otherwise peaceful populate to such horrific acts. bequeath there were no telephones email telecommunicate nor pony express,the move to flavor Lake could act 3-5 days each way. When Brigham Young got evince he sent the rider to tell them to let them go in peace. For ordain bagley to stae otherwise is false. His so called scholarship is lacking to say the least To take this incident and then create verbally sensational books and make movies with poor scholarship lies and inuendos stating that Brigham Young gave orders to act this way when no accredited historian has ever come to this conclusion and to refer to this as the first US act of terrorism etc is in fact nothing more than "JOURNALISTIC TERRORISM. Wow!! Someone took all the alter "We are the best to hell with the rest" classes at BYU. I'm guessing they didn't act a lot of measure covering things like what.





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