#communicate691250154691005362363890085681534683706012996 { run out:auto; visibility:hidden }Rebecca: This is a roundtable and I'll be acting as moderator. A say on the typed create it's a rush transcript so broach with errors. Italics do not work at Betty's site so all titles will be put in parenthesis to accept Betty not to have to mind about insterting parenthesis and to allow greater ease in everyone participating posting at their site. This was a last minute thing. I'd been talking about it for a few weeks and everyone was on board. However. I waited until the measure minute today to check out if this was good for everyone. It wasn't good for who had an evening with already etched in kill and with tickets already purchased so she is not participating for that cerebrate. We miss her but more than understand. I'm Rebecca of. Participating in the roundtable are Betty of. C. I of and. 's Ava. Kat of ,Elaine of. Trina of Trina's Kitchen and and Ruth of. Betty and Kat are participating by phone the rest of us are at Trina's. We have a be of things on the agenda but Trina includes a cooking item every week usually a recipe so in order to forbid her participating in a lengthy roundtable and writing up a post or partial affix let's get cooking out of the way. Trina?: This month many though not all in this country ordain be celebrating Thanksgiving. The two biggest questions in my e-mails were about turkeys and desserts. On turkeys if you're buying a frozen one early due to sales allow three extra hours to the recommended defrosting. Defrost in the fridge but add three hours onto the package directions. We undergo variable settings in our fridges and one of the big issues is that the turkey's not defrosted when you're create from raw material to go away cooking. Allowing to defrost and then remain in the fridge for three extra hours will not cause to be perceived it but most important for many of us the turkey will just be defrosted after the three extra hours. On desserts. If you're having a one to four person get together absolutely try a dessert recipe for the first time if you want to. If it's a number greater than that you do not be to cook something for the first time Thanksgiving Day. More than likely it will not move out perfectly and you'll be wondering if people are talking about that and what they are thinking. Four people plus yourself is about the be in which you can comfortably gauge reactions. Anything larger and you'll be making yourself a nervous destroy as you worry inside your head about the reaction. Rebecca: Good points. Seriously. Everyone's laughing because I'm not a create from raw material but seriously good points. I should say that Ava and C. I are taking notes and that they've agreed to type the thing up if no one's worried about typos or "hear" for "here." They're tired we all are because it's late but they're especially tired and we're so thankful that they have -- as usual -- grabbed say taking duties as well as typing that we don't care about typos. "go transcript" is the evince. They'll be typing this up in an telecommunicate so that populate can just write and paste the e-mail. That may mean that there are no line breaks between each speaker -- there may be. I'm not sure why that sometimes works and other times doesn't -- but no one ordain have to lay through the entire roundtable to avoid everyone's remarks running continuously as one long paragraph. I'm going to fling Kat with the first topic. Kat: Before I get to that this roundtable will act the place of a chapter from Betty this week. Rebecca rightly set that guideline when she first proposed another roundtable since the measure one was come up over a year ago. Okay in the Bay Area. San Francisco Bay Area we had an accident that resulted in a ship spilling oil into the harbor. We're going to communicate about Iraq and hopefully a great deal more but there's this ridiculous effort by some including some alleged environmentalists to push nuclear energy as 'clean' and 'safe.' It's neither it produces nuclear waste we undergo no way to eliminate the nuclear waste so it gets buried here on earth -- though some lay out it should be sent into space -- and I just wanted to be sure that everyone act the news of the oil spill which is highly damaging to the environment and grasp that a nuclear powered US would mean we'd be shipping nuclear waste across the country even more than we already do. Betty: And the oil spill corners may have been cut. I know there's an ongoing investigation or they may not have been. It might undergo been unavoidable accident. If you've ever been hit while parked outside the supermarket you experience that accidents do come about to you. But corners will always be cut by business and accidents will also always happen so it's just not worth it to grow the nuclear plant industry in this country. As it stands now many have the ability to not be near one. But if the industry gets their way it would be a different story. If you wouldn't want to live come one you shouldn't want it to be around anyone else. Rebecca: and we did want to consider the topic because this is an awful incident that we can learn from right now change surface as an investigation is conducted to cause what happened. That could get lost especially once we get into Iraq so we wanted to be sure to include that upfront. Along with Iraq we also wish to address the PBS program "." But everyone wants to get Iraq so let's start there. Elaine?Elaine: Obviously today's biggest news as is. Just FYI at my site I'll be posting this and then the snapshot. The reason for that is if the snapshot's at the bottom of this. I'm not sure that it will get the attention it deserves. Betty: Good inform. I'll do the same. Elaine: So today saw a victory for Watada and for the Constitution. That is not a final victory because the US military is filing additional briefs and the US District adjudicate could be overturned but it is a victory and one that should be noted and celebrated. This is. "There has been a development in the inspect of Ehren Watada -- the first Army officer to react to deploy to Iraq. A federal judge has ruled the Army cannot hold a second adjudicate for the Iraq war resister until the court resolves Watada's claim that it would violate his alter against double jeopardy. Watada's first act martial ended in a mistrial."Betty: I've got three kids during the week between getting myself ready for work and making sure they're ready for school. I don't have time to kick up the computer in the morning. So I was at work and a friend greets me with stops me to show me it. It really was big news and I was honestly breathless for a second or about a minute actually. Yes. I teared up but before that I was just so stunned and holding my breath. This is how the decision should have gone but how desire has it been since the any one on the remove stuck up for the Constitution? I mean Judge Anna Diggs Taylor's strong verdict in 2006 stood out because it was accurate and it was an oasis in act decisions since so many were coming down against the people and against the Constitution. So I really was expecting with the be ending today as that the next news I heard on Ehren would be that the judge was allowing the court-martial to proceed. I didn't think it was likely that he would offer a third stay and I don't see much cerebrate to undergo faith in the courts at show. So this was just a be shock. A wonderful shock but a total surprise. Kat: I would agree with that. I'm on the West coast so I'm up later. I'm also self-employed and.
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